In this episode, Hettie V. Williams is in discussion with Dr. Noliwe Rooks on a range of subjects. Williams is an Associate Professor at Monmouth University and Rooks is Chair and Professor in the Africana Studies Department at Brown University. She is an interdisciplinary school and her work examines how race and gender impact and are impacted by popular culture, social history and political life in the United States. More specifically, her work explores race, capitalism and education as well as Black women and material culture. Rooks is also the author of four books, many articles, essays, and journalistic pieces having received funding from several foundations including Mellon, Ford and the Woodrow Wilson Center and the architect of the phrase segrenomics. In this episode, she discusses race, gender, capitalism and segrenomics including some discussion of her experience as a woman of color in higher education.