In this episode, Dr. David Julius Ford, Assistant Professor in the Department of Professional Counseling at Monmouth University, is in conversation with Dr. Rufus Tony Spann, Assistant Professor in the School Counseling Program at the University of Southern California and Dr. Don Trahan, an equity, diversity and inclusion specialist, about racism amid the backdrop of COVID-19. Ford is a Licensed Counselor in North Carolina, Virginia, and New Jersey. He is also a Board-Certified Counselor and an Approved Clinical Supervisor. He began his career in Student Affairs and has ten years of counseling experience. These scholars articulate the multilayered dimensions of Black oppression and what it means to “hold space” while navigating white supremacy in the academy and beyond. Note: This episode may have some sensitive language.